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    Post by saints11 Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:48 pm

    No team filled that last spot yet?
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    Post by CoachPaul Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:53 pm

    Not sure who it is, but its all full. I tried to get Loyola in and was told there was no more room.
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    Post by saints11 Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:56 pm

    does anybody know who the last team is? and has every team confirmed their spot?
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    Post by whatupdawg Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:02 pm

    yo saint11.
    focus on yer plaoff run n do wha y'all doo best...recruitn.
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    Post by Coach Mike Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:22 am

    The last team entered I think is Parkdale CI...
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    Post by Coach Clement Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:55 am

    Looks like a great tournament today at HoopDome


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    Post by eastern23 Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:48 pm

    coach clements who won notre dame or your sqaud?
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    Post by HooptownGTA Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:40 pm

    Pool A:
    Pickering A 73 - Don Bosco 24
    Brebeuf A 63 - Birchmount Park 48
    Pickering A 89 - Birchmount Park 49
    Brebeuf A 54 - Don Bosco 50

    Pool B:
    Vaughan 114 - Parkdale 24
    Pickering B 59 - J. Clarke Richardson 45
    Vaughan 81 - Brebeuf B 54
    J. Clarke Richardson 65 - Parkdale 42

    Pool C:
    Pope John Paul II 92 - Thomson 32
    Dunbarton 64 - Banting (London) 49
    Pope John Paul II 77 - Banting (London) 53
    Dunbarton 84 - Thomson 36
    Pope John Paul II 84 - Dunbarton 67

    Pool D:
    Mother Teresa 95 - Marc Garneau 33
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 83 - Brebeuf B 25
    Mother Teresa 115 - Brebeuf B 15
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 88 - Marc Garneau 22


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    Post by Tila_Tequila Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:46 pm

    Totally domination by Vaughan and mother teresa

    Vaughan 114 - Parkdale 24

    Mother Teresa 115 - Brebeuf B 15

    Looks like no mercy was applied here
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    Post by Xavier Rimrocker Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:47 pm

    [quote="Xavier Rimrocker"]Is Notre Dame Hamilton actually Notre Dame Welland?[/quote]

    Had a look at the website and it's ND Burlington.


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    Post by panathas Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:52 pm

    Are those scores typing errors? Brebeuf B is a solid team from what I've heard, and from the results I've seen.


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    Post by HooptownGTA Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:26 pm

    Pool A:
    Pickering A 73 - Don Bosco 24
    Brebeuf A 63 - Birchmount Park 48
    Pickering A 89 - Birchmount Park 49
    Brebeuf A 54 - Don Bosco 50
    Pickering A 76 - Brebeuf A 39

    Pool B:
    Vaughan 114 - Parkdale 24
    Pickering B 59 - J. Clarke Richardson 45
    Vaughan 81 - Brebeuf B 54
    J. Clarke Richardson 65 - Parkdale 42
    Brebeuf B 65 - Marc Garneau 35

    Pool C:
    Pope John Paul II 92 - Thomson 32
    Dunbarton 64 - Banting (London) 49
    Pope John Paul II 77 - Banting (London) 53
    Dunbarton 84 - Thomson 36
    Pope John Paul II 84 - Dunbarton 67

    Pool D:
    Mother Teresa 95 - Marc Garneau 33
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 83 - Brebeuf B 25
    Mother Teresa 115 - Brebeuf B 15
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 88 - Marc Garneau 22
    Banting (London) 76 - Thomson 22
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 77 - Mother Teresa 76


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    Post by HooptownGTA Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:39 pm

    Pool A:
    Pickering A 73 - Don Bosco 24
    Brebeuf A 63 - Birchmount Park 48
    Pickering A 89 - Birchmount Park 49
    Brebeuf A 54 - Don Bosco 50
    Pickering A 76 - Brebeuf A 39
    Birchmount Park 79 - Don Bosco 72

    Pool B:
    Vaughan 114 - Parkdale 24
    Pickering B 59 - J. Clarke Richardson 45
    Vaughan 81 - Brebeuf B 54
    J. Clarke Richardson 65 - Parkdale 42
    Brebeuf B 65 - Marc Garneau 35
    Vaughan 68 - J. Clarke Richardson 29
    Pickering B 51 - Parkdale 35

    Pool C:
    Pope John Paul II 92 - Thomson 32
    Dunbarton 64 - Banting (London) 49
    Pope John Paul II 77 - Banting (London) 53
    Dunbarton 84 - Thomson 36
    Pope John Paul II 84 - Dunbarton 67

    Pool D:
    Mother Teresa 95 - Marc Garneau 33
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 83 - Brebeuf B 25
    Mother Teresa 115 - Brebeuf B 15
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 88 - Marc Garneau 22
    Banting (London) 76 - Thomson 22
    Notre Dame (Ajax) 77 - Mother Teresa 76


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    Post by Coach Clement Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:46 pm

    [quote="Tila_Tequila"]Totally domination by Vaughan and mother teresa

    Vaughan 114 - Parkdale 24

    Mother Teresa 115 - Brebeuf B 15

    Looks like no mercy was applied here[/quote]

    In the MT vs. Brebeuf B we played half-court from the 2nd quarter on alternated 5-on 5-off.

    No fast break. no half-court pressure. They are all Gr. 9's and their best player who is good was missing.

    We did our best to keep it down.Maybe there should have been two levels the top 8 and the other 8


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    Post by HooptownGTA Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:34 pm

    Sunday February 7th:
    Semi-finals:
    10:45am - Vaughan vs. Notre Dame (Ajax)
    10:45am - Pickering A vs. Pope John Paul II


    Championship Final at 1:30pm


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    Post by Baller5 Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:52 pm

    Wow,100 point game, that's crazy.
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    Post by CoachImgrund Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:18 am

    A 100 point game is very rare. I've only ever heard of it before in that Texas match.

    What strategies did Notre Dame implement to keep the game at less than 60 points? How do the players and coach from Parkdale feel about the game with Mother Teresa? That's the only thing that really matters.

    Let's face it - if the players and coach from Parkdale are okay with what happened, there is nothing wrong with the 100 point win, in this case.
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    Post by Coach Clement Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:00 am

    Coach,

    MT was playing Brebeuf B. Their coach thanked us for stopping the break and playing half-court.

    My fellow coach and their coach talked for at least half an hour following the game.

    On top of everything every shot we were taking was going in. One of those games, there was no pressure on us and we just relaxed and made shots.


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    Post by Coach Clement Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:16 am

    There are plenty of 100 point games every year. Fr. Henry Carr 115-90 over St. Mary's.

    Vaughan has had several including 112-47 over a good Dunbarton team.

    They are not a great experience for anyone involved but they do happen right here in the GTA.


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    Post by whatupdawg Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:50 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_basketball_players_who_have_scored_100_points_in_a_single_game
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    Post by CoachImgrund Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:41 am

    Coach Clement,

    I meant games where the margin is 100.

    As I stated and you clarified, if the other team is able to walk away with their dignity and there are no hard feelings from the opposing coach, I don't see a problem with that score.

    I think it's unfair that some people were making accusations of 'no mercy' without knowing the details.

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    Post by mr_09 Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:44 am

    i don't get how the semis are made when some teams like pickering b havin't lost
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    Post by Coach Clement Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:51 am

    Vaughan beat Pickering B by a good margin.


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    Post by Dunbarton Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:03 pm

    What a day of basketball! Tiring, exciting and fun. For me, it really showed which teams were prepared after the holiday/exam break. Mental toughness and conditioning really told the tale in those last set of evening games. Thanks for Mr. Kerr for setting up a nice tournament :-)

    I would like to comment on the 100 pt games.

    As hard as coaches work to beat teams by 10 I think they can become more creative when it comes to preserving the feelings of the players of teams who can be beaten by 100. It's not enough to pull off your press after the half. If everything you put up goes in then stop shooting. One may reply: "Asking my players to stop shooting, or make 10 passes, or stop dribbling, or go to a sagging 2-3 zone is unfair to my players and not real basketball." If winning is the primary motivation of your programme then I agree.

    On the other hand, if the primary motivation is to develop caring, thoughtful, respectful young men (this goal is not limited to Catholic education of course) then I fail to see what can be gained by beating the likes of Parkdale by 90? (I felt bad for the Parkdale team...a small 500+ inner city 60% ESL school against a 1000+ perennial powerhouse from the Burbs.) While this may not fit someone's definition of no mercy it's certainly not mercy enough.

    I was far from the only coach/parent/spectator there dismayed by these lob-sided results.

    I can tell you from the experience of losing to Vaughn 111-47 in the finals of their tournament in their gym that my players were not unaffected by such a defeat. I was puzzled by the host coach's decision to continue to pour it on while my bench was in for most of the second half. Perhaps he was caught up in the exciting (hostile) atmosphere of the home crowd hopping with excitement at a 100+ score? Or maybe I am to believe they stood to improve by using my bench as a dummy defense practice squad...who knows. (I must say that the players never taunted, show-boated or otherwise rubbed it in which was nice to see.)

    Of course there are those who will continue to hammer weaker teams because "they have work to do" or "this is the real world of basketball" and if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, but I would like to think that the majority of coaches and players are more interested in the integrity of the game and the developing psyches of the young men we are responsible for.


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    Post by CoachImgrund Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:18 pm

    Thank you Dunbarton. I don't think enough coaches are speaking out against lopsided scores.

    To me, it's obvious that some coaches have a different agenda, and, sometimes, it's at the expense of another team. It seems like it's gotten worse this season. As you said, players ARE affected by lopsided scores - how couldn't they be?

    I'm still curious as to what strategies Notre Dame used against Parkdale, to keep the margin to at less than 60. I mean, they were obviously the best team in their group that day, but only beat Parkdale by less than 60. Still a big margin, but you can see that the attempt was there.

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