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    Post by Coach Clement Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:13 am

    I think there are so many good Junior teams that we should post a Junior Super Sixteen like the Seniors.

    I see things this way.

    I will not put numbers because I have to play these teams.

    Top Level (no order):
    Henry Carr A
    Vaughn
    Pope John Paul II
    Eastern Commerce
    Pickering

    Middle Level (no order):
    Richview
    Oakwood
    Mother Teresa
    Henry Carr B
    Notre Dame (Ajax)
    Dunbarton
    West Hill
    St Francis Xavier
    d'Youville

    Knocking at the Door (no order):
    St Jean de Brebeuf
    St Theresa Lisieux
    Martingrove
    Newtonbrook
    Brebeuf (TDCAA)
    Jean Vanier

    I hope I have not forgotten anyone.

    I will leave it to others to rank the teams by the numbers. Smile


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    Post by panathas Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:18 am

    The only team that should not be near top 16 is Newtonbrook. We beat them 63-45 last night.

    How about D'Youville and Loyola? I do hear rumours that Leger beat D'Youville by 17 in league play but I have not seen a score.

    Other teams that could be strong but haven't played any top schools:
    Fletchers Meadow
    Weston
    Bill Crothers
    St Augustine (York)
    Probably a couple more from the TCDSB


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    Post by the_legend Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:56 am

    1. vaughan
    2. carr A
    3. pickering
    4. eastern commerce
    5. pope john paul
    6. oakwood
    7. richview
    8. carr B
    9. mother teresa
    10. oakwood
    11. loyola
    12. mother teresa
    13. notre dame
    14. west hill
    15. campion
    16. dunbarton

    hb - brebeuf, st theresa, vanier, father goetz
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    Post by Tila_Tequila Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:37 am

    mother teresa should be a lot higher
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    Post by the_legend Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:37 pm

    nawww g
    only beet brebeuf by 5 or summin
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    mayne-ishu
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    Post by mayne-ishu Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:35 pm

    the_legend great list so far until further notcie i think it's very accurate but im sure there might be a little changes after the farther henry carr tournement next week
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    Post by saints11 Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:17 pm

    Newtonbrook shud be on dat list still dey have great players i seen dem play dey can bang with the top 3 teams
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    BallinIsMyHobby12
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    Post by BallinIsMyHobby12 Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:18 pm

    Newtoonbrook lol
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    Post by DatBaller15 Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:19 pm

    lol this guy said top three teams. i would put them in between 8-12 in top 16 though
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    Post by Tila_Tequila Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:44 pm

    STl should be ranked higher as well
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    Post by Persistance Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:46 pm

    1.Vaughn- Lost to Carr A by 2 but without a Crucial Player Cy, Beat Pope

    2.Carr A- Beat Eastern Vaughn Pickering Carr b

    3.Pickering- Beat Eastern Notre Dame Pope Lost to Carr a

    4.Pope- Beat Richview Notre Dame West Hill Lost to Pickering and Vaughn

    5.Eastern Commerce- beat Oakwood lost to Pickering and Carr A

    6.Richview- Lost to Pope by 2, beat Brebeuf

    7.Notre Dame(ajax)- Beat Carr B Westhill Dunbarton lost to Pope and Pickering

    8.Mother Teresa- beat Dunbarton and Brebeuf Lost to Vaughn

    9.Oakwood- Beat Carr B lost to Eastern

    10. Carr B- Beat Dyouville lost to Carr A Notre Dame

    11. West Hill- Beat Dyouville Lost to Carr A and Notre Dame

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    - From 12 and up is hard


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    Post by Peel Fan Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:46 pm

    Why should STL be higher? I think they are in a fair spot right right now. They lost to Xavier and d'Youville, who are both in the second group of teams.
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    Post by simple touch5 Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:44 pm

    eastern and Mt also lost to vaughan by double digit points and should be acknowledged
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    Post by ernest Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:29 pm

    Hold up here a minute. Carr A has not lost and deserves the number one spot, until someone beats them fair and square. It does not matter who is injured and who did not play. Maybe players on Carrs team are injured and are playing through it. Results speak, injuries do not.
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    Post by Persistance Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:35 pm

    Thats True, results do speak. They do deserve the number One Spot

    1.Carr A- Beat Eastern Vaughn Pickering Carr B

    2. Vaughn- Lost to Carr A by 2 but without a Crucial Player Cy, Beat Pope

    3.Pickering- Beat Eastern Notre Dame Pope Lost to Carr a

    4.Pope- Beat Richview Notre Dame West Hill Lost to Pickering and Vaughn

    5.Eastern Commerce- beat Oakwood lost to Pickering and Carr A

    6.Richview- Lost to Pope by 2, beat Brebeuf

    7.Notre Dame(ajax)- Beat Carr B Westhill Dunbarton lost to Pope and Pickering

    8.Mother Teresa- beat Dunbarton and Brebeuf Lost to Vaughn

    9.Oakwood- Beat Carr B lost to Eastern

    10. Carr B- Beat Dyouville lost to Carr A Notre Dame

    11. West Hill- Beat Dyouville Lost to Carr A and Notre Dame
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    Post by franchise24 Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:49 pm

    thats true i still think carr should be 1
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    Post by Coach Clement Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:13 pm

    IMO

    They are # 1 until someone beats them and then we consider if they should be replaced!

    GAMES ARE WON ON THE COURT!

    No woulda coulda shoulda!

    No excuses numbers speak!

    I will now give that ranking - Carr is #1.


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    Post by simple touch5 Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:09 pm

    Henry Carr(1)- beat vaughan, pickering ,and car b

    Vaugh S.S (2)- beat Eastern, MT, Pope, Dunbarton, lost to Henry carr by two without most valuable player (cy)

    Pickering(3) beat eastern, Notre Dame , Pope, lost to car a as well

    Pope(4) lost to vaughan and pickering by a reasonable amount of numbers, Beat richview and West hill ( played Mt tournament without Nick Lewis)

    Eastern(5)have lost to pickering, Henry Carr a, Vaughan , have beat oakwood as a top 10

    Notre Dame (6) have beat Carr B, West Hill, and Dunbarton for constalation championship , they have lost to Pope and Pickering

    Richview(7) have lost to Pope, D youville B team, they beat Brebuf by a fair amount of points ( seem to show a overall good balance and have lots of potential* once they change things up and make GOOD choices on the court they can be a force)

    MT (8 ) - lost to Vaughan, STL, and have beaten Dunbarton and Brebeuf

    Oakwood(9)- Beat Carr B lost to Eastern (has had a rough start but should get going soon)

    Carr B (10)- beat D youville and have lost to Carr A Notre Dame, and Oakwood

    West Hill(11)- beat D youville lost to Carr A, Notre Dame and Pope, ( need to be more consistant)

    Dunbarton(12)- Have beatean Campion, have lost to Vaughan, Mt, Notre Dame ( have three critical trio with two or three role players that seem to play very well together but sometimes try to play too much one on one and damage their tempo)
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    Post by Coach Clement Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:26 pm

    Notre Dame may be high but they have great talent, everything else is good.

    They will move up if they compete. The season is young! Cool


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    Post by Coach Clement Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:23 am

    Eventhough Cy is a great player and obviously has a great cast around him, Carr A should remain number 1 until proven otherwise - ON THE COURT!

    They are proven winners and deserve all the respect in the world. It's one thing to play a great team close but another thing to beat them!

    I do believe Vaughan is a very strong program.

    Do not discount Pope they played without Nick Lewis and other key guys were very banged up in the MT Tournament.

    They definitely hung in with Vaughan for much of the game before their injuries caught up with them. I was very impressed! Cool

    St Francis Xavier is another team people are forgetting. They have already won a tournament in Hamilton.


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    Post by BallinIsMyHobby12 Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:35 pm

    Henry Carr A
    Vaughn
    Pope John Paul II
    Eastern Commerce
    Oakwood
    Mother Teresa
    Henry Carr B
    Pickering
    Dunbarton
    Richview
    West Hill
    d'Youville
    Notre Dame (Ajax)
    St Francis Xavier
    d'Youville
    St Jean de Brebeuf
    St Theresa Lisieux
    Martingrove
    Jean Vanier
    Newtonbrook
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    Post by Persistance Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:39 pm

    Is That In Order Or just Top Teams
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    Post by Xavier Rimrocker Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:48 pm

    [quote="Coach Clement"]St Francis Xavier is another team people are forgetting. They have already won a tournament in Hamilton.[/quote]

    They also won a tournament in Oakville that included St. Thomas More, Holy Trinity and Hamilton Brebeuf.


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    Post by DaFuture... Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:07 pm

    1- Henry Carr (Beat Pickering, Vaughn, Carr B)
    2- Vaughn (Beat Pope, Eastern, Mother Tereesa)
    3- Pickering (Beat Pope, Eastern, Notre Dame)
    4- Pope (Beat Notre Dame, Richview, West Hill)
    5- Eastern (Beat Oakwood, West Hill)
    6- Notre Dame (Beat Carr B, West Hill, Dunbarton)
    7- Mother Tereesa- Beat Brebuef, Dunbarton)
    8- Oakwood (Beat Carr B)
    9- Henry Carr B (Beat D'youville)
    10- Richview (Beat Brebuef)
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    Post by BallinIsMyHobby12 Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:36 pm

    [quote="Persistance"]Is That In Order Or just Top Teams[/quote]
    Thats In Order

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