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    Post by Coach Clement on Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:49 pm

    Mother Teresa Junior Boys Tournament
    December 2-4, 2010

    Thursday December 2
    10:30 a.m.-G1- Vaughan vs. West Hill
    11:45 a.m. –G2 – Ste Marguerite d’Youville vs. Dunbarton
    1:15 pm – G3 – Blessed Mother Teresa vs. Martingrove
    2:45 pm – G4 – Bill Crothers vs. Downsview
    4:00 pm – G5 - Winner G1vs. Loser G2
    5:30 pm –G6 – Winner G2 vs. Loser G1
    6:45 pm – G7 – Winner G3 vs. Loser G4
    8:00 pm – G8 – Winner G4 vs. Loser G3

    Friday December 3
    10:30 a.m.-G9 – Pine Ridge vs. Oakwood
    11:45 a.m. –G10 – ACMT vs. Pickering
    1:15 pm – G12 – Windsor Forster vs. London H.B. Beal
    2:45 pm – G 13 – Winner G9 vs. Loser G10
    4:00 pm – G11 - Fr. Henry Carr vs. J Clarke Richardson
    5:30 pm –G 14 - Winner G10 vs. Loser G9
    6:45 pm – G15 – Winner G11 vs. Loser G12
    8:00 pm – G16 – Winner G12 vs. Loser G11

    SaturdayDecember 4
    9:00 a.m - - G17- Winner G5 vs. Winner G8
    10:30 a.m - - G18- Winner G6 vs. Winner G7
    12:00 pm- G19 – Winner G13 vs. Winner G16
    1:30 pm – G20 – Winner G14 vs. Winner G15
    3:00 pm –G21 – Semi-Final 1 – Winner G17 vs. Winner G 18
    4:30 pm – G22 – Semi-Final 2 - Winner G19 vs. Winner G20
    8:00 pm – G23 – Gold Medal Game – Winner Semi-Final 1 vs. Winner Semi-Final 2


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    Post by tart11 on Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:22 pm

    J Clarke is going to lose by alot.

    Coach melnik, do you always start your top 5 kids even though you know you will win by like 50? just wondering if you ever say, well j clarke stinks so i am going to start my 13th, 14th, and 15th guy, my water boy and my 50 year old assistant coach.
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    Post by steve.nash1 on Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:01 pm

    This a real crappy draw.

    Coach Clement I believe you dropped the ball on this one.

    Real Crappy
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    Post by KDF3MVP on Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:42 pm

    Coach Bob

    How could you put Vaughan, DY, West Hill and Dunbarton in one group? Downsview is for sure one level up against Crothers, MT and MArtingrove, but overall the Thursday group is not balanced at all.

    I have no info on the out of town teams in the Friday group but I know for sure J Clarke and Pine Ridge would not make that far in this tourney, that's for sure.

    This draw in my opinion is a total disappointment based on what I see in here.
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    Post by Skeeter on Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:43 pm

    Coach Bob,

    Please tell me that you were looking at 1999 rosters when you put this draw together.

    The top three teams are all in Thursday's pool. To your credit however, I'm glad to see that MT joins the list of good talent on Thursday.

    Your semi-final match-ups are going to be blow outs. That is very unfortunate.
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    Post by tart11 on Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:09 pm

    maybe teams could only play on Thursday?
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    Post by Coach Clement on Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:40 pm

    steve.nash1 wrote:This a real crappy draw.

    Coach Clement I believe you dropped the ball on this one.

    Real Crappy

    Guess what the teams request their playdates based on their league schedule etc. I set up draw based on those requests. They also sometimes request a start time based on their specific situations i.e. coverage at school,etc. Hence the moving G11 to 4:00 p.m due to a request by one of the teams. Do you suppose a convenor does these things on a whim or something?

    Do you expect me to put the top teams in the draw based on their records against one another in the first round?

    We have a number of strong teams playing on Thursday and a number of others on Friday that satisfies the definition of balanced in my definition. There is arguably a very strong team in each part of the draw on Thursday and also on Friday.

    I believe Windsor Forster is very strong by the way. All our teams are good in their own leagues or area of the Province and have opted to come into the field and compete with some of the very best in the Province.


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    Post by Coach Clement on Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:56 pm

    tart11 wrote:J Clarke is going to lose by alot.

    Coach melnik, do you always start your top 5 kids even though you know you will win by like 50? just wondering if you ever say, well j clarke stinks so i am going to start my 13th, 14th, and 15th guy, my water boy and my 50 year old assistant coach.

    FYI, Coach Melnik will not be at our tournament and is not the coach of Fr. Henry Carr Juniors. He will be with his Seniors at a Senior tournament.

    So it will not be his decision as to who starts.


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    Post by Coach Clement on Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:18 am

    Here is basketball IQ's top 16 on another thread. I believe he is pretty astute so let us suppose it is reasonably accurate.

    1. Henry Carr
    2. Vaughan SS
    3. Downsview
    4. Eastern
    5. St Mikes
    6. Oakwood
    7. Pickering
    8. PJP II
    9. Dunbarton
    10. West Hill
    11. Mother Teresa
    12. Ste Marguerite d'Youville (Peel)
    13. Chaminade
    14. Holy Trinity (Oakville)
    15. Westview
    16. Brebeuf

    If this is accurate - which it well may be - we have Henry Carr (1) Oakwood (6) and Pickering (7) on Friday and Vaughan (2) Downsview (3) and Dunbarton (9) on Thursday. That is based on their teams requests as to play date and then trying to balance the teams on each day.

    To me, it appears to be fairly balanced. We also have some perennial contenders from around the province scattered throughout the field.

    The top teams (according to basketball IQ) Carr, Vaughan, Downsview and Oakwood are each in a different quarter of the draw.


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    Post by Coach Clement on Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:49 am

    Again using basketball IQ's rankings we have a very strong field with the 2, 3, 9, 10 and 11 ranked teams on Thursday and 1,6, 7 and 12 along with some out-of-town teams on Friday.

    That's 9 of the top 12 teams and some traditionally strong out-of-town teams. That is very strong imho.


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    Post by basketball IQ on Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:08 am

    Coach Bob

    Absolutely, there are so many different factors that have to be taken in consideration that many individuals may not know when putting on a event.

    As for the rankings i did have a opinion from what i have seen this year, and i may be way off base or almost correct. but it seems that the way it is looking it may appear that top teams are playing Thursday, but reality is, there are other programs this year who have vastly improved their rosters and are being competitive. For example, Dunbarton, (no disrespect) has a stronger program this year than last year, and they are doing well along with D'ville.So lets remember the work other programs are doing.

    Does the draw look suspect, NO! I think Coach Bob did what he had to do, with the information that he has and with the requests from other schools as well

    Good Luck to all

    This will be a exciting tournament once again
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    Post by Coach Clement on Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:42 am

    The tournament goes today.

    Admission is as follows:

    Students - $2.00
    Adults - $6.00


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    Post by Coach Clement on Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:48 pm

    Thursday December 2
    10:30 am - G1 - Vaughan 50 vs. West Hill 42
    11:45 am –G2 – Ste Marguerite d’Youville 48 vs. Dunbarton 60
    1:15 pm – G3 – Blessed Mother Teresa 65 vs. Martingrove 64
    2:45 pm – G4 – Bill Crothers 55 vs. Downsview 70
    4:00 pm – G5 - Winner G1 (Vaughn 54) vs. Loser G2 (d'Youville 24)
    5:30 pm –G6 – Winner G2 (Dunbarton 59) vs. Loser G1 (West Hill 61)
    6:45 pm – G7 – Winner G3 (Blessed Mother Teresa 70) vs. Loser G4 (Bill Crothers 63)
    8:00 pm – G8 – Winner G4 (Downsview 64 ) vs. Loser G3 (Martingrove 58 ).


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    Post by Coach Clement on Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:52 pm

    There were many exciting and competitive games today. Those who were critical of draw appear to have been wrong in their assessment.

    Tomorrow will be a great day of basketball. Windsor Forster may be a darkhorse. I saw them last year and they return most of their players.

    Saturday Quarterfinals:
    Vaughan vs. Downsview
    West Hill vs. Mother Teresa


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    Post by Coach Clement on Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:35 pm

    Friday December 3
    10:30 a.m.-G9 – Pine Ridge 43 vs. Oakwood 51
    11:45 a.m. –G10 –ACMT 55 vs. Pickering 52
    1:15 pm – G12 – Windsor Forster 80 vs. London H.B. Beal 61
    2:45 pm – G 13 – Winner G9 (Oakwood 49) vs. Loser G10 (Pickering 41)
    4:00 pm – G11 - Fr. Henry Carr vs. J Clarke Richardson
    5:30 pm –G 14 - Winner G10 (ACMT 36 ) vs. Loser G9 (Pine Ridge 57)
    6:45 pm – G15 – Winner G11 (Fr. Henry Carr 100) vs. Loser G12 (London Beal 40 )
    8:00 pm – G16 – Winner G12 (Windsor Forster ) vs. Loser G11 ( J Clarke Richardson ).




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    Post by Coach Clement on Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:44 pm

    Semi-Finals:
    Fr. Henry Carr 65 (Jalen Poyser 21) Windsor Forster 48 (D'Andre Brown 16)
    Downsview 49 (Adrean Brown 14) West Hill 25 (Tunde Ojeshina 6).

    Championship Game - Fr. Henry Carr 58 (Christian Hewitt 18) Downsview 47 (Kemar McKnight 22) .

    Team MVP's:
    Pickering - #12 Ryan Williams
    ACMT (Hamilton) - #11 Nick Sahlollbey
    Dunbarton - Cameron Creightney
    Bill Crothers - Ty Rombus
    Martingrove - David Anderson
    Ste. Marguerite d'Youville - Jerome Simpson
    H.B. Beal - Moses Orozco
    J. Clarke Richardson - Bailey Burton
    Vaughan Secondary - Tristan Newman-Smith
    Mother Teresa - Jalen King
    Pine Ridge - Joel Dash
    West Hill - Jerron Shalland-Rhodes
    Forster - D'Andre Brown
    Downsview - Othniel Russell
    Fr. Henry Carr - Lamar Copeland

    All Star team
    Willie Gaston - Windsor Forster
    Kemar McKnight - Downsview
    Christian Hewitt - Fr. Henry Carr
    Rashawn Chambers - Downsview
    Brandon Chevannes - Fr. Henry Carr



    Tournament MVP -Jalen Poyser - Fr. Henry Carr


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    Post by thefuture on Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:57 pm

    Will Saturday's 25point individual games be posted on the main page's 25 point club list ?
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    Post by Coach Clement on Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:19 pm

    I will go through the scoresheets and send in the 25 point games.

    I know Bailey Burton had 35 and 25 and Tyronn King had 25 vs. MT despite extra defensive attention!


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