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    Post by HooptownGTA on Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:05 pm

    1. Pickering
    2. Campion
    3. St. John Paul II
    4. Notre Dame (Ajax)
    5. St. Joseph's
    6. Cardinal Newman
    7. Dunbarton
    8. Oakwood
    9. Northern
    10. St. Augustine (Brampton)
    11. d'Youville
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    14. Newmarket
    15. Bishop Allen
    16. JC Richardson

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    #13 Notre Dame (Brampton) 39 - #10 St. Augustine (Brampton) 34 - Peel Region league game - Oct 27
    St. Roch 53 - St. Michael (Bolton) 44 - Peel Region league game - Oct 27
    #8 Oakwood 42 - Central Tech 38 - Toronto South Semi-final - Oct 28
    #7 Dunbarton 50 - #4 Notre Dame (Ajax) 40 - Durham Region league game - Oct 28
    #11 d'Youville 56 - St. Michael (Bolton) 38 - Peel Region league game - Oct 29
    #9 Northern 44 - #8 Oakwood 33 - Toronto South Championship Final - Oct 30


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    Post by downtownbrown on Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:00 pm

    When will you answer the question from last week? Why has Newmarket fallen?
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    Post by eliteballer on Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:05 pm

    When will you answer the question from last week? Why has Newmarket fallen?

    This is just a friendly website doing good work for Toronto Basketball.
    There is nothing official about these rankings.
    But my guess for Newmarket falling in ranking is strength of schedule.
    Newmarket pulled out the D'Youville tournament, played in a Tier 2 tournament, then I'm not sure what happened to their appearance in the Centennial tournament this past weekend.
    Also, the pre-season ranking is just a prediction based on how teams performed last year, and starters returning.
    I believe you have to play other teams in the top 16 during the season to solidify your place... in my opinion.


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    Post by HooptownGTA on Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:36 pm

    #13 Notre Dame (Brampton) 39 - #10 St. Augustine (Brampton) 34 - Peel Region league game - Oct 27
    St. Roch 53 - St. Michael (Bolton) 44 - Peel Region league game - Oct 27

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    Post by Coach Clement on Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:55 am

    The teams at the top have earned their spots by competing against the best (each other)!


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    Post by bballscout on Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:44 am

    eliteballer wrote:When will you answer the question from last week? Why has Newmarket fallen?

    This is just a friendly website doing good work for Toronto Basketball.
    There is nothing official about these rankings.
    But my guess for Newmarket falling in ranking is strength of schedule.
    Newmarket pulled out the D'Youville tournament, played in a Tier 2 tournament, then I'm not sure what happened to their appearance in the Centennial tournament this past weekend.
    Also, the pre-season ranking is just a prediction based on how teams performed last year, and starters returning.
    I believe you have to play other teams in the top 16 during the season to solidify your place... in my opinion.

    It' appears you have never seen them play....?
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    Post by eliteballer on Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:40 pm

    bballscout wrote:
    eliteballer wrote:When will you answer the question from last week? Why has Newmarket fallen?

    It' appears you have never seen them play....?

    Yes I watched them play at the Applewood tournament.
    Actually, I have seen every team in the Top 16 play except Notre Dame Brampton.
    So while Newmarket is a good team, there is not enough data to maintain their previous ranking.
    Feel free to post all of Newmarket's games and scores or maybe set up an exhibition game or 2 against top 16 teams. Then maybe this website will re-look the ranking...in my opinion.
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    Post by Basketball Mom on Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:54 pm

    Newmarket is definitely a good, young squad with a good coach. I agree that the lack of a tough schedule is what has hurt them in these rankings. Hopefully they get the support from their own school administration to enter tougher tournaments for next year. I was actually really looking forward to seeing them compete at centennial this past weekend.
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    Post by HooptownGTA on Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:36 pm

    #8 Oakwood 42 - Central Tech 38 - Toronto South Semi-final - Oct 28


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    Post by actionjackson on Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:33 am

    Basketball Mom wrote:Newmarket is definitely a good, young squad with a good coach. I agree that the lack of a tough schedule is what has hurt them in these rankings. Hopefully they get the support from their own school administration to enter tougher tournaments for next year. I was actually really looking forward to seeing them compete at centennial this past weekend.

    This is what happens when good players are stuck at a school that doesn't care about about basketball. Yet many of us frown upon a school like Bill Crothers. We need more "basketball " schools and open it up so the students that love the sport and want to attend such "basketball" schools should be able to go there without penalty.
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    #7 Dunbarton 50 (Shaina Pellington 22) - #4 Notre Dame (Ajax) 40 (Alex Matic 16) - Durham Region league game - Oct 28


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    Post by HooptownGTA on Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:51 pm

    #11 d'Youville 56 - St. Michael (Bolton) 38 - Peel Region league game - Oct 29


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    #9 Northern 44 (Anja Marinkovic17) - #8 Oakwood 33 (Aiden Rainford 16) - Toronto South Championship Final.


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    Post by TheBench on Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:55 pm

    actionjackson wrote:
    Basketball Mom wrote:Newmarket is definitely a good, young squad with a good coach. I agree that the lack of a tough schedule is what has hurt them in these rankings. Hopefully they get the support from their own school administration to enter tougher tournaments for next year. I was actually really looking forward to seeing them compete at centennial this past weekend.

    This is what happens when good players are stuck at a school that doesn't care about about basketball. Yet many of us frown upon a school like Bill Crothers. We need more "basketball " schools and open it up so the students that love the sport and want to attend such "basketball" schools should be able to go there without penalty.

    Do you pull your information out of your a** or do you actually have something to back that up? This is the problem with basketball in this community, too many ill-informed individuals spouting off this type of nonsense without the slightest shred of evidence or basketball knowledge to back it up.

    Problems with administration and athletics is common place at most schools and to make a statement like "This is what happens when good players are stuck at a school that doesn't care about basketball"... shows your lack of insight into the Newmarket program.

    I have absolutely ZERO ties to the school or basketball program (don't even live in the area) but I happen to know and respect the work put in by the players and coaching staff there. Many of which have played with one another for a number of years with the OBA's YNBA Avengers. To suggest that they don't care about basketball is utterly ridiculous.

    I've also noticed in most of your posts, you seem to place Bill Crothers as the be all & end all of high school basketball/athletics.

    Tell me, when was the last time BCSS won or regularly contended for a YRAA championship? How many of their graduated players have they sent down south on a scholarship or are now playing significant minutes at the CIS level?

    Are there some? Yes, but no more than other area schools. This is what drives me crazy. People talk about Crothers as if they've revolutionized basketball in Ontario but much like anything else in sport, business, etc... the data must be there to support these claims. So what is it that makes them so special that other programs should begin to model themselves after them?

    People frown at BCSS because they have gained a reputation for poaching players from other schools/areas in all sports (guys more than girls) and have been operating loosely around the YRAA/OFSAA rules (ex. in basketball: moving players around in the Excellence Program and YRAA high school teams) but at the same time, the school and its supporters b***h and moan when they aren't getting their "due respect"...

    If other teams were given the same luxury of recruiting outside of the school boundaries, don't you think they could mimic the same results? Let's even take away the excellence programs because even given everything I've said, the girls is a well-coached/managed team and I have a ton of respect for Jodi Graham, her staff & her players.

    Instead, let's look at the teams that play at the YRAA level. Those teams field a great deal of talent but offer ZERO coaching. Just check the standings if you don't believe me. What good is it to go to a school like Crothers unless you're the ELITE ATHLETE?

    Don't just buy into the name and praise BCSS because of their perceived "status"... do your homework and you'll soon realize that TRUE basketball development is happening at regular high schools across the province.
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    Post by Coach Clement on Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:16 pm

    AMEN!!!!


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